Alec was an overworked journalist. Nick was an exhausted startup employee. A mutual friend forced them to grab beers together and forty-five minutes later, they had a new project to fill their nonexistent time. This podcast soon took on a life of its own. Nick started hounding connections to book guests and Alec worked long evenings producing the content. Alec willingly switched jobs to a marketing firm while Nick was laid off from his startup. Over the span of six months, this is what they created.